Cohost's financial update is a poster child for what I and others have been saying for a long time now: the internet won't survive without decentralization. You can't just make the next Twitter or Reddit or Tumblr. That's a joke. Cohost was against decentralization but they've now learned why centralization isn't feasible: only massive corporations with infinite VC can afford it, and they hemorrhage that money and close eventually too.
The internet is too expensive to work this way and it won't long term. We just got complacent while there was enough VC to go around. It's pets dot com again. It doesn't last.
And this isn't even about AP/fedi, while I like fedi this is true with or without it. We have to go back to having websites. Not The(tm) website for whatever, but lots of them. If you don't want to go to more than one? Too bad, it's how things will be regardless. Having One website isn't sustainable for corporations and isn't even vaguely feasible for little guys.
You have to have lots of websites. I can run a small community for a bit of my entertainment budget for the month or donations from a handful of users who like what I'm running. You can run a mastodon instance for a small crowd for very little. You can run a website off an old laptop laying around. You cannot run a 130k user site and pay you and your friends $94k a year to run it. It's not sustainable. I wish it was. It isn't. Sites have to stay small, and there have to be enough of them spread out to spread out the financial load to hobbyist levels. Sorry that you can't make a living running a site for your friends to hang out on, but it's just how the math works out. Reddit can't make money doing it, Twitter can't make money doing it, Patreon can't...they only survive on being Huge Corporations Who Can Bleed Money. You can replicate bleeding money on a small scale all you want but I wouldn't advise it. You can however run a forum for your friends for the cost of Netflix or whatever.
hey folks, we'll be quick and to the point with this one:
we have made the decision to defederate from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works. we recognize this is hugely inconvenient for a wide variety of reasons, but we think this is a decision we need to take immediately. the remainder of the post details our thoughts and decision-making on why this is necessary.we have been concerned with how sustainable the explosion of new users on Lemmy is--particularly with federation in mind--basically since it began. i have already related how difficult dealing with the explosion has been just constrained to this instance for us four Admins, and increasingly we're being confronted with external vectors we have to deal with that have further stressed our capabilities (elaborated on below).
an unfortunate reality we've also found is we just don't have the tools or the time here to parse out all the good from all the bad. all we have is a nuke and some pretty rudimentary mod powers that don't scale well. we have a list of improvements we'd like to see both on the moderation side of Lemmy and federation if at all possible--but we're unanimous in the belief that we can't wait on what we want to be developed here. separately, we want to do this now, while the band-aid can be ripped off with substantially less pain.
aside from/complementary to what's mentioned above, our reason for defederating, by and large, boils down to:
as Gaywallet puts it, in our discussion of whether to do this:
There's a lot of soft moderating that happens, where people step in to diffuse tense situations. But it's not just that, there's a vibe that comes along with it. Most people need a lot of trust and support to open up, and it's really hard to trust and support who's around you when there are bad actors. People shut themselves off in various ways when there's more hostility around them. They'll even shut themselves off when there's fake nice behavior around. There's a lot of nuance in modding a community like this and it's not just where we take moderator actions- sometimes people need to step in to diffuse, to negotiate, to help people grow. This only works when everyone is on the same page about our ethos and right now we can't even assess that for people who aren't from our instance, so we're walking a tightrope by trying to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. That isn't sustainable forever and especially not in the face of massive growth on such a short timeframe.
Explicitly safe spaces in real life typically aren't open to having strangers walk in off the street, even if they have a bouncer to throw problematic people out. A single negative interaction might require a lot of energy to undo.
and, to reiterate: we understand that a lot of people legitimately and fairly use these instances, and this is going to be painful while it's in effect. but we hope you can understand why we're doing this. our words, when we talk about building something better here, are not idle platitudes, and we are not out to build a space that grows at any cost. we want a better space, and we think this is necessary to do that right now. if you disagree we understand that, but we hope you can if nothing else come away with the understanding it was an informed decision.
this is also not a permanent judgement (or a moral one on the part of either community's owner, i should add--we just have differing interests here and that's fine). in the future as tools develop, cultures settle, attitudes and interest change, and the wave of newcomers settles down, we'll reassess whether we feel capable of refederating with these communities.
thanks for using our site folks.
hey everyone,
if you've been keeping tabs on the internet drama you probably know about all of reddit shenanigans. when I first heard about the blackout I was really worried about loosing the 196 community and things like whenthe, r/traaa, and gay sounds shitposts so I decided to try and make an instance that could act as a central hub of sorts and try and keep these communities connected. it's really important that we bring these communities over to the fediverse if we want them to be resilient and I think this is the right step forward. I know things are still rough around the edges and there will be growing pains, but as the lorax said, "a tree falls the way it leans"
reddit and corporations will always lean to enshitification but for once we have something that leans the right way
if this is going to work, we need as many people as possible to start switching over and we are going to need your memes. lots and lots of memes. if we all get on board we can make this work
with this post I would like to officially announce fedi196.gay is up and ready for open registration
I love you all and I look forward to seeing you, wherever you wind up on the fediverse ❤️
-ivy🏳️⚧️
hey, remember that chernobyl dramatization that aired a few years back and how everyone found it so baffling that the soviet government went to such great lengths to cover up such a terrible public health hazard?
anyway, I hear they've stopped tracking COVID cases now, and everyone I speak to thinks that the pandemic is "winding down" or "over."
why do I mention both of these things in the same post?
oh, they're just, you know, two random and completely unrelated thoughts...