I need more folks to know who are talking about #Meta or #Facebook joining the Fediverse that the company has coordinated with the federal government in the US to remove people from disability benefits.

No, I'm not joking. Many folks on disability know better than to EVER post pictures on that platform as they've been used against them. Or to ever talk about having a slightly better day for their ailments than usual. Having them spy on the #fediverse is NOT okay and will actively make this platform less safe for many disabled people. That #FediPact should be seriously considered.

@Peace_out_art @literalgrill
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/social-security-disability-benefits-your-facebook-instagram-posts-could-affect-your-social-security-disability-claim/

I’m not sure if this still a thing since this seems more like a TFG kind of move.

@chikorita157 @Peace_out_art True, Facebook complies with being asked for literally any of this. It's nasty and will continue on any other platform they have access to.

@literalgrill @Peace_out_art I don’t think anyone should be trusting Meta given the Cambridge Analytica scandal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook–Cambridge_Analytica_data_scandal

@literalgrill yeah, if meta gets any bit established on here, im out.

@literalgrill this is exactly why ive been trying to make search opt in on Calckey and others. Sadly people tell me on my issues that making your account private is better than that what I'm asking is dumb and gives a "false" sense of safety

@literalgrill its kinda imfurating since we are emualting the tools used to hurt us to be more mainstream. I also hate meta cause this will just be like poorijg gas on the fire. Like the next protocol activityhub3*3 of whatever will repeat the process again I hate it

@literalgrill Literally, the Fediverse is public. If Facebook wants to start harvesting data from users of ActivityPub servers right now, nothing is stopping them. Defederating them will only prevent us from seeing them, not vice versa.

In the same way, the US Federal Government doesn’t need Meta to scrape the Fediverse on their behalf; they can scrape and store that information and use it to deny people disability benefits all on their own.

I’m not defending Meta, Facebook, or the US Federal Government. I’m saying that this platform isn’t “safe” in the way you think it is. The horrible things that happen to people because they post on Facebook will happen to them if they post publicly on a fediverse server, because nothing is preventing anyone from viewing public posts.

@packy @literalgrill my issue here is that your right but there are many other principles here, by not defederating meta your essintally giving them full moderation control over your instance, since they have market share. Also on data scraping yes, but in terms of a massive data scraping effort this would essintally require building fake instances to collect data from as fedi only sends post to instances after someone follows them, this is also why I have strong words on search on fedi. Many people called me dumb for wanting opt in search with opt out being default for the same reason and just suggested privating my account but its more about making it harder and less convient

@packy @literalgrill also defederating them does in fact stop facebook from directly seeing the instance, since it will refuse to share data with them

@literalgrill wow. :(

@kotaro Yeah sadly, this is very true. The massive surveillance network Facebook has created has made it easier for the network to be used to spy on disabled folks. It's rather sad.

@skymtf @packy @literalgrill it wouldn't require fake instances, it would just require a fun little tool called selenium. anything public is just a web scrape away if someone actually wanted it. i don't want to victim blame, but posting on a platform that is accessible from the public internet, search feature or not, will result in people on the public internet seeing that. what prevents harassment campaigns on fedi is the culture primarily, not the technology imo (and that's why kicking out meta as soon as they try and stick their hands in here is necessary, so we can maintain the culture over here)

@hopolapopola @packy @literalgrill its not just culture, its that meta will use engagement algorithms and ultimate dictate what's popular on fedi. Which will be the most racist vile shit