@mia you can use like please i guess? which is a rust alternative to sudo, not sure what you’re trying to achieve though >_<

@cheri @mia Can confirm point 1, my VM runs doas only

@mia you’re starting to sound like Phoronix user which scares me and i can’t tell if you’re shit posting or not. but fair enough it’s true.. most people don’t use 90% of sudo/su features but at least in my case it’s not like they’re especially large programs so I don’t find myself too torn up about it

@mia aaa yes >_< fair enough.. although something like please isn’t nearly as battle tested even if it does have a smaller attack surface and vulnerabilities are patched quickly with sudo/su since they’re so important

@cheri @mia Also OpenRC and systemd don’t even compete in the same space. systemd aims to be a new foundational layer of the system (hence the name), with stuff like socket activation, a lot of nitty-gritty stuff to lock down services, a logging layer in journald, logind, they also absorbed udev into its wider ecosystem, user units for user-level process supervision, timers (replacing cron), etc. OpenRC is “just” a system-level init system. It’s an apples-to-oranges comparison, really.

@mia devault runs doas instead of sudo on alpine boxes as i recall. the trouble you will have is some scripts presume the existence of sudo so you will need to address that with a symlink or so

@icedquinn @mia not gentoo but nixos, doas works flawlessly

@mia You don't need to install sudo on Gentoo, you can use whatever. I usually just use su.

OpenRC isn't really a systemd replacement, it is an init system/rc system. While it has scripts for network management, those are a separate package and it is not all one bundle of integrated modules like systemd is. As such you will not find all functionality systemd has and it mostly just handles starting and stopping stuff. So try it or just use the systemd profile on Gentoo.

@mia I hadn't even thought about using an alternative to sudo but I guess I should actually do that

I haven't even installed sudo yet so that shouldn't be a problem

@mia I didn't even know sudo did more than give root access

@mia fun fact: my base server structure runs on OpenRC & OpenDoas

@mia @LivingCooki oh wow thats a bit more than i thought

i usually just use doas because i can actually configure it beyond uncommenting the wheel group (sudoers is scary)