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nora@misskey.heonian.org

nora@misskey.heonian.org

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re: suicide... discourse? psych ward, carceral shit, suicide watch
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@mia @quasar for me it wasn’t what happened in the ward but what happens after. Everyone stays away from you and doesn’t trust you anymore and treats you differently

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nora@misskey.heonian.org

nora@misskey.heonian.org

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@mia @quasar its like you yourself become a taboo for anyone that knows you went to the psych ward for being suicidal.

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elaine@elaine.is

Elaine (they/she) 💜🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

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It depends on the facility, voluntarily ones are much better than if you're dragged to a state one by the police. They're not going to be fun but the intensive therapies can help stabilize you before getting outpatient therapy. Everyone was mostly nice the last time I had to go.
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OrangeCatCatBoys

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@mia @elaine @quasar i would love to go to grippy sock jail if i knew that it would actually help me get out of the situation and help the feelings and thoughts that make me suicidal instead of just putting me in a place where i cant do anything about it lmao
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OrangeCatCatBoys

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@quasar idk i doubt it could help me *personally* and my own situation. id just be suicidal before, during, and after going in and the only difference is that i wouldnt have a way out until i convince them im a good girl and i can be trusted around sharp objects again.

also lmao i already am a pro at disassociating this shit is so easy in this household smh
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meadow@translunar.academy

meadow@translunar.academy

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@elaine @quasar @mia lets not mention that strictly "involuntary" admissions are very rare and usually "voluntary" admissions just mean the patient signed an agreement to be admitted, but typically the admission is initiated not by the patient themself but by family, doctors, etc. who pressure the patient into agreeing

(speaking from experience on this one. had a doctor hold me at the doctor's office and basically made me 'agree' to get put in a car and driven to a hospital, with the implication that i would get 'involuntarily' admitted if i didnt sign the paper. yeah, real 'voluntary')
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elaine@elaine.is

Elaine (they/she) 💜🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

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It sucks and isn't fun but they do immediately remove you from stressful environments. When I was dealing with a lot of bullying in high school they made sure after I left all my classes were online with a Virtual Classroom where there was no student to student interaction so there's a lot they can do to help you.
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elaine@elaine.is

Elaine (they/she) 💜🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

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Are you struggling with addiction? You should come to a sober faction meeting with me if you have time. We have a fully secular (non-religious) approach to recovery.
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meadow@translunar.academy

meadow@translunar.academy

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@elaine @mia @quasar also if you want to know why 'involuntary' admissions are so rare, its because of exactly what i described. if you're 'involuntarily' admitted you are confined to the ward and have to follow strict rules that other patients don't, while losing any right to request to leave. so, of course, when you're held against your will and you don't actually have any real choice, you'll 'choose' to be 'voluntarily' admitted just to not go through the humiliation of an 'involuntary' admission

oh, and in most US states you can be held for at least 24 hours, even if you were 'voluntarily' admitted. after that, you can only request to leave 'against doctors advice', but that request can be rejected and result in an 'involuntary' confinement. and until your request is accepted, you effectively are classified as an 'involuntary' patient and thus are more strictly confined than other patients. so yeah, for obvious reasons, even requesting to leave can seem like too much of a risk, so patients 'voluntarily' stay because the only (legal) way out comes with all these threats
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meadow@translunar.academy

meadow@translunar.academy

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@quasar @elaine @mia oh yeah, often mental hospitals are rehab facilities
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nora@misskey.heonian.org

nora@misskey.heonian.org

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@mia @quasar @meadow @elaine I would like to point out that evidence based is not empathy based.

in the case of involuntary or voluntary admission they strip you of all of your belongings and aren’t allowed anything that could be potentially used to cause harm. sure there are numbers that show that it reduces the amount of suicides but the experience in itself is extremely traumatizing and dehumanizing. I volunteeraily admitted myself because I needed the help right away because there was no other help in a reasonable time frame.

I’m alive but my qol plummeted and I have some pretty severe trauma from the experience. I didnt need to be admitted I just needed therapy and medication that wasn’t 2-3 months away because everything else was completely booked

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nora@misskey.heonian.org

nora@misskey.heonian.org

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@quasar @meadow @elaine @mia anyways please remove future mentions of me from this thead I hope people will listen to someone who actually experienced it. thread is triggering enough

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183231bcb@calckey.lgbt

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@quasar I feel similarly:
https://calckey.lgbt/notes/9ge3h8q4v4t5j9nq

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mayu@misskey.heonian.org

mayuwu|🏳️‍⚧️misskey

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@mia @quasar i’ve honestly had an intense fear of being held/put in one of those since i was much younger, to the point of having nightmares about it semi often. it’s like one of my top fears to the point that im extremely cautious of even mentioning feeling that way to friends when i am. esp since when i was younger an online friend called the cops on me for having a breakdown and they basically beat my door down at 3am woozy_baa luckily i lied my way out of it and pretended i had no idea what they were on about and that i was just asleep. when they forced me to show them my msgs they were too dumb to notice me changing chats really fast.
everyone i know thats been thrown in one has said its super traumatizing blobcat_daradaradara

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