y'know i used to understand people buying apple products for their engineering, but it's become increasingly obvious apple is designing the hardware to be as hostile as possible

like come the fuck on, soldered in SSDs for a supposedly professional-grade product like the macbook? ah yes let's just make the only form of storage something that is well known to not last for more than a few years at a time, and make it something you can't replace!

when will people wake the fuck up to the fact apple does nothing but scam their customers, i mean all corporations do it but especially apple

i get needing a macbook due to exclusive software needs (which sucks i hate this reality, feel bad for literally any musician) but using it just... because? why are you doing this to yourself

for real this is like making a printer that comes built-in with like 500 sheets of paper, and once you're all out of sheets, the printer no longer works, and you can't put in new sheets because it's designed to not take that

...don't give printer companies any ideas but this is exactly how a god damn soldered-in SSD works for laptops that don't have replaceable storage

and guess what the macbook pro does :)

okay gonna conclude my rant with something absolutely fucking bonkers about these soldered-on SSDs for the macbooks:

when these SSDs fail, they short to ground, meaning your fancy shmancy macbook you paid $3,000 for won't even fucking turn on anymore. you don't even have the option of booting your laptop from an external drive to keep it alive!

why would anyone willingly buy from apple when this is the shit they pull

my source is someone who's like, a technician, they do a lot of repairs on apple products, they know what the fuck they're talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qbrLiGY4Cg

@EeveeEuphoria soldered in SSDs make zero sense too, given that nvme exists

a 2230 is literally just the chips on the smallest possible carrier board, and full-length ones offer even more capacity without adding too much more bulk

@EeveeEuphoria okay they make sense as an evil way to force you to buy more

@eri exactly! why do you think they started maliciously designing these things to refuse to boot when the SSD itself dies?

it's to make sure you have absolutely no chance of being able to use the device! $3,000 blown on a macbook, why not spend $3,500 on the next one :)

@EeveeEuphoria the greasiest fucker ever go take a damn shower instead of ranting about bullshit in your chair

@zebo dude what the fuck

@EeveeEuphoria i really hate rossman hes fucking annoying as hell

@zebo oh i thought you meant me, i was very close to blocking you :v

either way he's right y'know. macbooks are straight up horrible hardware, they might have state-of-the-art CPUs but what does that matter when the SSD is the achilles heel of the laptop, causing it to straight-up not boot anymore within the span of like 3-4 years, or even just 1 if you make heavy use of it

@EeveeEuphoria its not just an ssd, its raw nand connected directly to the cpu, you cant just replace it

@zebo well exactly! that's why it sucks! they could've easily used an m.2 instead, but they went for the most hostile way to treat the customer possible

@EeveeEuphoria it is to make it faster than a pcie drive would allow

@EeveeEuphoria same with the on chip ram

@zebo faster but at what cost? the $3,000 macbook you have becoming more than useless after using it for just a couple of years?

@zebo soldered on ram still sucks because you can't easily upgrade it, but RAM usually lasts a great long while so i'm not too pissed about that

soldered on SSDs, as i've said many times already, don't last long, and when it's designed to render the computer completely unsuable when it's dead, that sucks!

you shouldn't be supporting devices that last only a few years just to become scrap!

@EeveeEuphoria if you have enough money to shell out $3000 for a laptop you can afford to get another one

@EeveeEuphoria @eri

this is my problem with apple, i'd love to buy their products if the hardware was user repairable at all

the engineering and performance is great but i don't have the $3,000 to spend on their special repair tools to undo awful choices like gluing the back panel onto the device instead of using screws like every other OEM under the sun

@EeveeEuphoria the macbook i use at the moment is going on 10 years now

@zebo jesus christ no you can't! that's not a justification whatsoever!

if you shell out $3,000 for a laptop you should expect it to last for a long long while!

@zebo that's because your macbook was made before SSDs were even a thing that could be considered to be soldered-on to laptops

please stop trying to justify apple's shitty behavior

@EeveeEuphoria if you dont like macbooks then dont buy them, nobody is forcing you

@thememesniper @eri they have wonderful CPUs and design tricks to make their hardware do wonders, but then they also mandate timebombs be implanted in their computers because "it makes the line go higher in our charts"

@zebo that doesn't mean people don't deserve better what the fuck

might as well say that for people who buy cigarettes! if you hate lung cancer just don't buy it :)

@EeveeEuphoria least theyre not letting carriers fill their phones with ads

@zebo ?????????????????????????????????????????????

so that justifies them making products that don't last more than a few fucking years???????

@EeveeEuphoria laptops do not contain addictive chemicals

@zebo okay now you're just being intentionally obtuse so i'm just giving you a hearty block, fuck off already

@EeveeEuphoria until 2022 i used an iphone se from 2016, that still works to this day

oh hey wow i'm gonna follow up all this info because this guy had to re-explain his video, and now i have more context

not only do some of the SSDs short to ground (which i already explained, very bad) but the very core fundamental of the macbook, the T2 chip (equivalent to bios/UEFI of a PC, basically "how do i even get devices to work on boot") stores it's information on the NAND.

so, if the NAND chip can't be read... the computer doesn't work, because it can't fetch the info on how to even get things up and running. and keep in mind, the NAND chips are proprietary! you can't just replace them with off-the-shelf stuff, because, of course apple has to include a micro-OS to manage it!

apple :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYG4VMqatEY