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OrangeCatCatBoys
also is it unreasonable to think that youth liberation doesnt mean no protections for minors, but instead protections that better adhere to the autonomy of minors without letting people have quick access to harming them???? im fucking going insane from this oh my god
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Orange 🍊
orange@thicc.horse@OrangeCatCatBoys I 100% agree as a social norm and in terms of sex ed.
Where I think it gets more complicated is how you enforce it with the legal system, and how that interacts with vulnerable communities.
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@OrangeCatCatBoys Like, when I was in highschool (15 years ago), I had a friend who was one of a very small number of openly gay boys in the school.
The only people he could realistically find to date were older.
It wasn't great. But he needed a way to feel normal and nobody could have stopped him.
In that case, if it had been illegal he would have had to have kept it more secret. Which would have put him at even more risk.
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@OrangeCatCatBoys So, like, super fucking dangerous. Inherently bad power dynamics. Caused harm. Would not recommend.
But also, if you're the only openly gay kid in a small town, I understand why you're going to take risks that I wouldn't think are good risks to take.
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Ember! 🦴
OrangeCatCatBoysmy opinion is that it shouldnt be the norm tho. situations like these are signs of a failure in society. gay kids shouldnt have to get groomed and used by older creepy men to express their sexuality.
also, the blame isnt on him, or any minor that ends up being abused. it's on the older people that know that it's wrong to act on it and take advantage of kids.
we need to protect minors, not by letting kids be with older people or whatever, but by making sure society doesnt fail them. if i was able to be myself, be heard, be taken seriously, and be cared about, i wouldn't have been exploited. not to mention i wouldn't be such a mess both with health and mental issues but thats an entirely different conversation lol.
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Orange 🍊
orange@thicc.horse@OrangeCatCatBoys I agree that ending queerphobia and making in easier for queer teens to find each other would be a better solution.
I think the question is just if the legal system makes things better or worse, until we get to that better place.
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OrangeCatCatBoysthere are so many things in the world that need to change, for the betterment of everyone, but we need to make what we have now work until then.
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orange@thicc.horse@OrangeCatCatBoys Yes.
I'm also talking about the very early days of social media. I'm sure things are fairly different now, and people are a little less isolated since queer teens can talk online.
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Many Colors, Many Forms, Many Flavors, Maybe More
polychromata@animalfound.familyShow content
@OrangeCatCatBoys underage creatures are given protection but never autonomy; overage creatures are given autonomy but never protection
both of these are fucked up and we should be building structures and culture that support everycreature without taking away their rights
or something like that
(should have bookmarked that, somehow i didn’t)
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