@mia coming back to this: yeah, i hate this. i confronted them in https://karkatdyinginagluetrap.com/@trollcall/111064157127238203 this thread, and they started off in this Very Confrontational way, that made me feel fucking stupid. I guess like, sure, they've been dealing with bullshit from bad-faith actors, but when you specifically outline in your post that you are open for discussion and then talk down to someone who is trying to talk to you in good faith is just like???? What ?????

@mia Also I quite like how they say "I need to stop listening to bigots" etc. when my review was mostly based on the contents of their own post..?? I may have gotten some details wrong but those mistakes didn't concern the post itself.

@trollcall you definitely need to stop listening to bigots (like r0)!

@mia hehe funny joke but honestly I think that phrase has me genuinely feeling uncomfortable now because of my confusion. ouuuughh i wante to explode

@mia This whole thing also just actually hurts me and my brain, because some of these "bigots" are actually really cool people who I think do cool things ( hi @vriska :] ), and I really don't want them to be cut off from all of the new people joining the Fediverse because of some shit that their instance seems to be doing. I think that's unfair and it's why I think "Admin x" blocks are bullshit.

@mia It also doesn't help that these blocks aren't timed. You **will** be blocked forever from following your cool artist friends ( hey @HonkBonk :D ) because your instance admin "censored a word ("asshole") in a way that looked like a slur while talking about a PoC" (see https://fba.ryona.agency/?reverse=mastodon.art for proof that its there). That shit's unfair.

@mia @HonkBonk I want to bang my head against a wall is all. This is stressful and not at all the bullshit I expected from the Fediverse. All I wanted was gay nerds and now I have to worry about "#Fediblock culture" to make sure karkatdyinginagluetrap.com doesn't get forever encased in liquid kryptonite.

@trollcall @mia my advice is to not stress about it at all, anyone worth talking to will not want to be on an instance that blocks 60% of the network. They've been trying to cancel me since 2018 on here and I still meet the cool new people worth meeting (you)

@vriska @mia Hi can i join your network :3 /joke

@vriska @mia
> anyone worth talking to will not want to be on an instance that blocks 60% of the network.
I'd say that's kinda false, especially recently, because there's still people migrating from Twitter / X who don't know what Fediblock culture is or even that they can be blocked off from their communities *at all*. I have a lot of cool friends from TwiX and I want to make sure I reach them all :[

@trollcall @mia the thing though is, is that eventually people who aren't okay with the bullshit are0h is doing smarten up to it or make friends on cool instances then leave those shit instances and see the bigger world at large

of course not EVERY cool person will manage to take this path but i can't spend time and energy dealing with fediblock nonsense and attempting to court that community, just not worth it

@vriska true,

@trollcall like, no matter what you do, people who wield social issues as a weapon to beat dissenters into submission (and collected 4 figures a month on patreon while doing so) are impossible to please and will turn on you in a heartbeat

@vriska yeah!!!! that's shitty!!!!
in fact i have an idea for a bad space alternative that isn't just a bunch of instances that submit their apparently unedited blocklists to a site.

you just sign in with your mastodon instance admin account and then you can:
- add an instance to the list
- vote for instances and put them higher/lower on the blocklist

basically, democracy for the Massive Blocklist !!!!

@trollcall i am fundamentally opposed to plug-and-not-play blocklists tbh

@vriska what does this mean

@trollcall the the idea of having some massive repository of instances to start out banning is bad for the health of the network and its users, like, block things ona case by case, admin by admin basis, thats how this was always meant to work

@trollcall even a community voted on blocklist would lead to problems of abuse and false information and smear campaigns over petty personal drama, though not to the degree having a council of grifters does