It's GNOME time 🐾 https://os.gnome.org/download/47.0/gnome_os_installer_47.0.iso

if you like making your life easier, you can just download this and use it directly as a disk image: https://os.gnome.org/download/47.0/disk_47.0.img.xz

images have grown A LOT since entering the 40 era… GNOME OS 3.38 used a “mere” 2.1 GiB

now we’re at 5.6

btw, if you want to compare how GNOME felt like back then and what it has become:

https://os.gnome.org/download/3.38.0/gnome_os_installer.iso
https://os.gnome.org/download/40.0/gnome_os_installer_40.0.iso

yeah, the URLs from 40 onwards all follow the same pattern: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-build-meta/-/wikis/gnome_os/Start-GNOME-OS#getting-the-images

……and if you don’t feel like trying out ISOs, you might enjoy going through release notes as much as I do

https://release.gnome.org/

(I’d say the GNOME 40 era spiritually started at 3.32 with the icon redesign? but still)

I wonder how outdated is most people’s idea about GNOME

and how many people even remember GNOME 2 by now

oh this is great

@xerz@fedi.xerz.one so far I've got 0 comments about that foot spinner in libadwaita 1.6 blog post

@alice ...welp, guess that means it didn't shock any GNOME devs?

@xerz@fedi.xerz.one I mean there were some comments on matrix among friends

but on the blog itself nope

@xerz@fedi.xerz.one is it a separate era? I mean there wasn't really any big break, just a versioning change

@xerz iirc they are shipping both ostree and sysupdate variants, so it's very likely to be that

@alice there’s no clear line due to its collaborate nature, but I’d argue the visual identity started shifting back in 3.32 with the new icons, around the same time libhandy was born ‒ which made it by 3.38, kickstarting a new development model and a clear UI and UX overhaul through a certain someone’s fork by 42

(also 40 moved the dash so that’s worth something)

@xerz I mean libadwaita and libhandy are by the same people, it’s not really a fork…

I mean adrien is not involved in libadwaita anymore, but he was on the way to 1.0

libhandy started between 3.26 and 3.28 fwiw, tho I wasn’t involved in it yet ^^ (that started between 3.30 and 3.32)

shell plans also started a lot earlier, also around 3.34

really the thing with 40 was just that a lot of things happened to land at the same time + versioning change. Shell was almost postponed too, a certain few people just decided to crunch it because rh wanted to use that version for new rhel or sth like that, I don’t remember exactly but it had to do with rh

@xerz the latter is actually public - while the process was done in secret, it was accidentally leaked very early on, here: https://blogs.gnome.org/carlosg/2019/10/14/gnome-shell-hackfest-2019-day-1/

https://blogs.gnome.org/carlosg/files/2019/10/photo5846183821618295443.jpg

look at the whiteboard ^^

@alice first of all: fair enough, I guess calling it a fork is mostly a technicality if even that

on "the 40 era": I just called it like that because 40 is the obviously-named, flashy release, kinda like a "hero release" you could say? but I do understand it didn't all start there — just not sure how I would call that transition otherwise

@alice oh and thxthx for the detailed info and article, that's cute to look back into

@xerz it’s just that from my pov… there wasn’t any transition? (other than a few gender ones, hehe)

The closest I can think of is gtk3->4 that was looming around 40 - iirc we had 1 or 2 core apps using gtk4 in 41 (without libadwaita), and mass adoption waited until 42 (tho it’s still not complete, unfortunately)

Compare to e.g. 3.0 which had a big concerted push, even tho some components (gnome-shell) existed before that, as early as in 2.28

yeah, the test failed on this specific image https://openqa.gnome.org/tests/5770

so until the ISO installer gets fixed, let’s just go straight into making a VM from the .img.xz

...I cannot boot the disk image no matter what I try

trying the fallback option

no you’re not seeing two cursors what are you talking about I think you have double sight