Question for #mobilelinux ppl out there:

is there any device rn that supports

- PostmarketOS
- Has *fully functioning calling*
- and has a *working* camera?

My wife said she willing to give a linux phone a try, but she isn't willing to have her phone *not be able to phone*

I would get waydroid all setup for her, setup flatpak repo and all that, but yeah, any devices that fit the bill?

She's used my op6t w/ gnome mobile and liked that, but the op6t doesnt do calling for us.

#linux #foss

@Wendinope Murena /e OS is basically Linux.

@felixtheanimator tried it, its not linux-enough, and isnt what she wants to try out either

@Wendinope OK. Good luck!

@justsoup Yeah, the 3a is what I was thinking would be best too, the 'partial' label worries me a lil for the calling, which is why im askin abt better, may end up going with it anyways

@justsoup okay, than yeah, that checks enough boxes I think ^~^

i'm wondering how ..gooood..? *hopeful* the camera(s?) are, if u know?

@Wendinope IME even Android can't phone. Everything is VoLTE only now, and stock AOSP or LineageOS won't VoLTE unless you previously ran some vendored shit that downloaded hidden partition patches from a carrier. 🤬

In theory eventually pmOS should be superior in this regard by having a phone app that implements VoLTE protocol properly at application layer rather than some ring-negative-2 bs.

@Wendinope Uhg, looks like the current stage is using the modem for VoLTE rather than implementing it at application layer, but it seems to be working/supported according to their wiki and other users! https://gitlab.postmarketos.org/modem/81voltd

@Wendinope @felixtheanimator Isn't it basically a custom Android like LineageOS? That seems like a deadend to me.

@dalias @Wendinope TIL what an absolute shit-show VoLTE is, and how (impossible though it may seem) carriers have made the situation ***even worse***.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_over_LTE

@shelldozer @Wendinope It's so utterly stupid. VoLTE should have just been SIP to a carrier-provided endpoint. I'm so angry Android silently removed SIP support from Phone app in an update. 🤬

@shelldozer @dalias @Wendinope wow this explains much of the absurdity I experienced... I thought the "carrier whitelist" was something to do with lots bugs in the software implementation, not that the mess ran so deeply

@Wendinope on my profile there are some examples, but the pictures with the rear camera are better now that there were in that momentt, keep in mind that there is no autofocus yet (ref: https://gitlab.com/sdm670-mainline/linux/-/issues/2)