btw my matrix name is @nano:catgirl.cloud :) yes im needlessly pushing my matrix account every chance i get since i want to get as many people as possible on places that Aren't discord

@nano is there anyway to use matrix without e2ee its annoying

@zebo yes you technically can do that but i refuse to do that with anyone since not encrypting your messages when you have the ability to is stupid since it voids the whole point of using matrix (admins can just read your messages freely :D)

@nano @zebo Unable to decrypt: The sender’s device has not sent us the keys for this message.

@slips @zebo stop using bad servers/bad clients + manage your sessions correctly

@nano @zebo “bad matrix server” and “bad matrix client” are both redundant statements

@slips @zebo yeah yeah cuz all of them are bad xd xd

@nano @zebo also even if i wanted to i literally just do not have the resources to host synapse lol.

@slips @zebo nobody has

@nano have they made on-boarding easier yet?

I remember trying it out in on and off thru 2017-19, never really stuck because of all the things that needed to be done just to get chatting X.x

@TrebleSketch you just like, make an account :p

@nano okay, cool!

So find other users and chatting is a lot easier and the app support is better now?

I remember needing to do the secret thingy almost all the time and on all my devices xP

@TrebleSketch you have to verify all new devices, this is required for the encryption to work and also doubles as a pseudo-2fa, but nowadays element supports scanning a qr code to do this. other clients like cinny usually make you match a set of emojis, which is also pretty trivial and only has to be done once

@nano hmmm, okay yeah. At least it sounds like verification can be easier for my own devices. No more fussy issues with trying to chat with everyone else?

@TrebleSketch seemingly no, unless you or the person youre trying to talk to are on a broken server, but the same thing goes for fedi and email too lol

@slips verify your devices with a key or another device.