can’t tell if ragebait or techbro go fast and break things grindset

@puppygirlhornypost2 "we all died in 2020 and this is hell" lmaoooooo

@puppygirlhornypost2 impossible to tell, with how untethered the capital-brainworms people are

@puppygirlhornypost2 isn't this a screenshot of X? I don't think the concept of irony has reached their shores

@puppygirlhornypost2 even if its ragebait, ive seen folks be genuine about that...

Just another consequence of the fact that software has insane margins and in spite of having large real world impacts on folks, we aren't a real engineering discipline with the same sorts of standards enforced.

I'm personally glad I dont have to do all the paperwork, but also we absolutely need to have higher standards for software.

the push back to this almost every time is: we can just push an update and fix it...

@puppygirlhornypost2 normally i'm inclined to believe it's ragebait but they really do think like this

but "that works" is doing a lot of work there

@puppygirlhornypost2 unfortunately, companies really do think the most important isn't to do things properly, but rather to get an mvp as fast as possible and fix it up afterwards. that's why so much corpo code, even before autonomous slop code writers were a thing, is just sloppy

same reason as why massive js metaframeworks like next, which allow you to do back and front at the same time, are so popular. same with wordpress. same as central registries, easy to have a single package source that (supposedly) does all the security stuff (they don't, but it's their job) to make sure they do what they say on the tin, it's all just to save developer time

"move fast, break things" isn't techbro anymore, it's all around the industry. and it fucking sucks.

@puppygirlhornypost2 I wonder if "pre-AI quality" was even a thing, because I’d already run into a ton of people calling code 'disposable' way before AI blew up

@puppygirlhornypost2 imagine having "competitors"; imagine caring what other software is doing,

imagine viewing everything as some imaginary competition that your trying to "win" .. which doesnt really exist lmfao .. capitalists are weird as fuck

@Li @puppygirlhornypost2 I'm in the games industry and in most cases, "competitors" in the gaming industry are what most normal people call "friends"

@puppygirlhornypost2 this has been the attitude in software for???? i wasn’t around for the dot com bubble but i must assume

@Li @puppygirlhornypost2
From their perspective, if they don't publish working software faster than somebody else, they lose customers.

Which probably holds some truth, and I'm no market analyst, but I'd like to think it's not as big a deal as they think.

@Paradox @Li @puppygirlhornypost2 most customers want as much as possible, for as cheap as possible, and as fast as possible, and lots of devs will do stuff at a low price shittily just to get them

those who actually want good, stable and maintainable stuff, and are willing to pay for it are a minority

@Paradox @Li @puppygirlhornypost2 they aren't everyone though, and anyone in marketing will tell you the most importantis to know who you target. "of course i want to target everyone" will likely result in failure though because that's what everyone else does, and they're ready to do it for less than you

@Li @puppygirlhornypost2 open source devs be like "holy shit sproingle just implemented fully functional depenectomization in their BRAID filesystem, I can use a similar trick to add extra frunkling power to my open source reimplementation of the human endocrine system" or something

No one in FOSS (except fascists that think FOSS is for them for some inexplicable reason) thinks of others as competitors. They think of others as collaborators. Signal works with Molly on features even though Molly is an unofficial client for their service. Random dudes on the other side of a planet accept my issues & logs on GitHub to fix things when I find an edge case. Fediverse software developers joke around & commit silly little protocol crimes to surprise eachother.

@Paradox @puppygirlhornypost2 mm its "lost sales" in the same way that piracy "looses sales" where they just assume their entitled to money and assume if other option wasnt a thing they assume everyone would just goto them instead.. lmao

@ben @puppygirlhornypost2 no no you see mario and sonic are totally competitors and you cant possibly like both or coexist or ..

@Li @ben @puppygirlhornypost2 mario x sonic the hedgehog yaoi in the locker rooms during Mario & Sonic Olympics

@astronema id say there’s a broader idea of making a bunch of inexpensive mistakes to end up with a functioning product rather than spend a bunch of r&d to make it right the first time. i dont think this idea is new hence why i said the usual techbro move fast break things grindset. i just think it has evolved. we have gone from making mock uis that throw “Not implemented” but look well thoughout and comprehensive to slop that silently explodes in the background without a guarantee it actually ever would work the way it was intended to. i don’t think this is a new idea but i do think it has changed form

@puppygirlhornypost2 mm its like the idea taken to its nth degree

@Li @ben @puppygirlhornypost2 the 90s console wars and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race

@Li @Paradox @puppygirlhornypost2 it makes a lot more sense on a more basic level when you remember that these are not people who produce things for value in anything resembling good faith

their entire understanding of anything at all revolves around their one business model of taking businesses, inflating their value through destructive and toxic means, selling them at that inflated value to some sucker and bailing out before anyone can hold them responsible for the inevitable failure of the thing they just ruined and sold

speed - and perhaps more importantly, your mark's carefully nurtured sense of extreme urgency - is everything to such a business model

the temptation to give in to your conscience and provide actual quality and value is actively harmful

@Li @Paradox @puppygirlhornypost2 editing the post makes me mindful again that the quoted post by Bald GenX White Guy Investor Dipshit no. E198738-428427B(xa) is just another bit of informational attrition in part of the ongoing scam

despite neither "normally" nor "really" being negation, "normally i'm inclined to believe it's ragebait but they really do think like this" attributes a belief state to the speaker that is the exact opposite of "i''m inclined to believe it's ragebait but they do think like this"

never believe anyone who tells you to just get rid of adverbs

@apophis fuck adverbs. get rid of em. from the whole language