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The way people in the US, leftists especially, interface with protests and marches is deeply stupid. They're not big larps where you get to dress up like the bad guys from a CoD game, they're not little private ingroup brunches only for the most ideologically pure, they're mass public events designed to show the strength of the people.
If someone's liberal aunt goes and starts taking selfies that's not a failure of the movement, in fact it being so wide reaching that even people like that wanna join in is a *massive* success. Get the fuck over yourselves and go outside.
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@eri
What I am is a citizen of the global south. My mom's generation overthrew a US-backed dictatorship just by protesting, I've grown up around people who went to anti-fascist marches before they learned to walk, so it's deeply frustrating to see "principled leftists" in the US act like they know how to do mass action better than all the people in the third world that've been doing it for centuries.
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@AppleAmps it’s because those “principled leftists” are often literally feds trying to stop the protests lmao

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Jaj, fair enough ig, cointelpro runs deep.
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@AppleAmps I may be misunderstanding the "LARP" part, but isn't the hiding of one's face generally to mitigate identification and targeting for secret (and not-secret) police raids?

(With increasing difficulty from hostile surveillance technologies.)

I would think that there's a point before which things haven't caught on enough for it to make it impractical to simply go after everyone participating.
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I mean, here's the thing though, isn't being identifiable at a protest *the point*? It's a demonstration to show your community that their neighbors and friends and whoever else are against something enough to be loud about it.

Also how many people have gotten arrested for having been at a protest after the fact? Like obviously we've been seeing examples of people getting arrested and/or killed AT protests but a mask wouldn't have helped them. The police and ICE, if they want to, can kill and track you either way, all mandating masks does is make protests look scarier which makes those liberal aunts less likely to attend, and that's bad.

And finally, look at actually successful protest movements in places like Bangladesh a couple years ago or South America in the 80's, how many of those people are wearing masks? I can't help but feel it kind of strange that you folks think you know better than protestors in the global south when like, in Bangladesh and Uruguay they managed to topple their governments, and no protest movement in the US has done *anything* in the last century.
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Also let's be real here, things in the US *have* caught up enough by now, the general strike in Minnesota attracted tens of thousands in freezing temperature.
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@lispi314 @AppleAmps I think OP is talking about it being big tent. So saying it isn't a LARP doesn't mean you can't dress like it is. It just means don't exclude people who *don't* dress for a LARP. And yes the surveillance aspect is important. Give people information and options but at the same time let them make their own choices and don't waste time criticizing those choices unless they impact others significantly.

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