@AppleAmps its not a subpost , a friends post sparked this thought tho
@fiore “horrible person” doesnt exist though like thats not a thing that Exists
true though real real true real fact checked by 100% armenian patriots
@azalea i include fascism sexism racism transphpbia homophobia toxic masculinity inside of that label
@fiore yea but all the people doing those things see themselves as actively a good person for doing it
maybe its a moral brainworms thing but to doll its like “if you were in a ‘bad category’ [e.g. and didnt know] youd consider everyone outside of that category to be the Actual™ bad people, so its better to just rip off the bandaid and break the illusion that anyone can know this objectively”
@azalea idrc abt being objective when i talk i implicitly assume my own moral reference frame , else nothing makes sense anymore
@fiore its arguably a bit hypocritical since this one is 90% sure its identified a thing it views as “good” and that thing is observable from most if not all angles
but at the same time the reason its observable from a bunch of angles is that its not defined in opposition to bad, someone can have a bunch of bad traits and a few good traits and the most important thing is that they have a few good traits (and they can try to have more of it if they want to)
so like . itd be possible to have a boyfriend thats shit in some ways but good in others . but if he’s good in certain ways the painful things would probably fade away over time . at least because of understanding you and going “oh no this is hurting you” or something
@azalea coming from me , the phrase “i hate bad people” is trivial because the two concepts identically coincide
@fiore ok yea thats . extremely extremely fair lmao
doll has the objectivity brainworms after seeing [lots of people] talk about morality and shit as if “objective” is like. the Most Important Thing and overrules anything that doesnt have a claim to objectivity as well
it tries to escape it but its Very Hard lmao
this one keeps ending up in “thing it treats with the same amount of anxiety as if it had to be objective” instead of “being objective doesnt matter, all that matters is that it lets itself care about things freely and believe in what it cares about, thats the Only ‘objective’ thing”
@fiore yeahhh makes sense
for this one it- oh
it tries to not have any bad people and also tries not to hate anyone
even if it dislikes them, it tries to look for things that would be like,,, understandable about them?honestly maybe this isnt akways a good thing/“healthy” . •~•
but yeah it .
if the two concepts are identical for it . then it likely Still would not believe “bad people” to exist
(honestly this is already true, the only people it actually hates are people that like… that say things they very clearly dont beleive in, and use it to be an asshole
like fuck, it doesnt even automatically hate the asshole part, but if one isnt even saying what one believes then theres no hope at all of communicating with them)
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