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this is a serious question btw im looking for advice on actually learning effectively

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@coolbeans uhh ive had limited success in the past with flash card apps (namely anki) and grammar books, just reading like 1 or 2 sections a day but it's not very fun.

other than that, just reading things and literally looking up every single word i don't know, but making no effort to actively memorize them. honestly i don't know how effective that is but at least i don't get burnt out on it very fast.

i only ever really focused on learning to read though cause books and wikipedia are the most fun to me, little to no interest in actually speaking

also looking at this entirely from the language learning perspective cause i think that's what you were talking about
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@kopopp yea its about lojban, but also in general (e.g. programming, where we run into these problems as well)

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@kopopp bury ourselves in resources but go too fast and dont actually memorise anything

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@coolbeans yea i think it's more about pacing and practical examples than just reading a bunch of relevant info as fast as possible. how to actually put that into practice though i have no idea
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