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Any sufficiently large backend application that avoids using an opinionated framework will eventually create their own, usually worse, framework in the application itself.

I know because this happened to me

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@0x4d6165 yes for sure

sometimes we do this anyway because we want to learn what our own opinions on the topic are... but it sure does happen

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@shroomie like, a larger framework with more pre-defined structure

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@0x4d6165 this is also true of sufficiently large frontend applications

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