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(poll for linux users)
how do you like your graphical apps installed?

16% flatpak
78% package manager (apt, dnf, zypper, pacman, etc)
2% appimage
1% bare binary
1% snap
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@nano mostly flatpak! But sometimes native.

I recently switched to Flatpak Steam. Always has a weird misconception it was bad vs native but it works fine so far.

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@nano Packaged for my distro, binary or if absolutely required - appimage.
Everything else is a crime and should not exist.

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@k i like flatpak :(

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@nano poor snap, it never had a chance

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@fluffy i dont feel bad for it

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@nano Basically every single time I've had an issue with an app, the solution was always "just use flatpak". At this point for me if an app isn't available as a flatpak it might as well not exist for me, with very few exceptions

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@nano if it’s in my package manager, i will install it that way.

if it’s not, i will go find the source code, learn how to build it, and then package it for my package manager. then it will be in my package manager, and i will install it from my package manager.

if that doesn’t work, it probably won’t work on my computer anyway. if i really want to run it, i’ll switch to a different computer and if there’s a flatpak, i’ll reluctantly use that. otherwise, if there’s a bare binary, i’ll try it, but it probably won’t work, so i’ll likely have given up at that point.

if i’m still trying, it’s probably because i need whatever the thing is for my dayjob, so i’ll switch to my work laptop’s ubuntu install and use whatever installation method remains.

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happy to see flatpak with so many users

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i would like to have a word with the one person that said snap

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@nano for me I use nixos so the nix-packaged stuff is usually very stable and working
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@nano but if that doesn't work my usual fallback is flatpak
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@nano the only good snap is the card game

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Clygro number 2 or 3

Edited 1 year ago
@nano basically all native apart from OBS, Flatpak not respecting my themes (last time I checked) and system speed is why I choose to use native
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@nano *confused look* where’s the source distribution option?

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@nano distributed binaries usually aren’t reproducible!

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@polychromata well i only had 5 slots and figured source compilation would be too niche ;w;

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@nano i much prefer going through my package manager. second only to that, appimage and bare binary kinda tie? and then flatpak last. snap doesn't even rank in my choices because i've had such awful experiences that it's literally more worth it to me to avoid apps i can only get as snap

flatpak is kinda weird imo. i like the idea of it but i've had lots of experiences with flatpak causing issues for me, i.e. lots of emulators are packaged without access to /mnt where i have my big storage drive mounted (i swear it's like nothing even acknowledges /mnt exists!!) so even if it's mild i'll often find myself needing to bust open flatseal just for that, or things get really fucky when it comes to flatpak apps that need to interact with non-flatpak apps i have installed (i have had so so many issues using anki in its flatpak form that relate to this, to the point that i'm often tempted to try compiling it myself again so i don't have to use the anki flatpak lol)

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@nu @nano why are you mounting over "/mnt"??

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@clocksie @nu isnt that exactly where youre supposed to mount things :p

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@nano i love flatpak i hope it becomes the default for everything
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@nano SO HEAVY, OBESE EVEN :cry:
tha't why not even appimage but at least its somewhat portable.

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@k flatpak does de-duplication. btrfs can do it too

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Clocksie (18+) 🇵🇸

Edited 1 year ago

@k @nano I can pick a 500gb HDD off the dumpster pile in Pakistan what are you doing to worry about space

Even then, the extra space is a tradeoff for a purpose.

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@nano i like the idea of flatpak but really hope it doesn't become the only option. a lot of gnome apps don't provide binaries or AppImages so I end up having to build from source (which wouldn't be annoying if they had just listed their dependencies)
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@username9431 i dont want it to become the ONLY option, because options are good, but i want it to be the default, the bare minimum

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@nano @nu yes, but they implied mounting over /mnt

Instead of a subdirectory under /mnt

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@nano basically whatever my distro ships. usually this means aur (arch) or flatpak (fedora). but when I'm on ubuntu I will willingly use snap, because it's the least annoying to get working (all the permissions and themes and stuff is already figured out)

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@nano

This really needs a ranked ballot poll.

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@nano don't care i use the one that works best

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@nano Enrage the entire Linux community by saying that you like to install your apps through DEB or RPM files.
neofox_angry

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