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AppleAmps
My hot take is that retro or vintage media should be judged first and foremost by modern standards. Of course you're gonna think modern games are 7/10 if the standards you use to judge retro games are "is it better than the Reagan administration"
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shroomie/joan (of the agaric system)
shroomie
@AppleAmps fair lol. i try to do a little of both
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@MossGrowsOnNormanRuins
That is entirely true but I think I'd make a distinction here between analyses and the kind of "is A better than B?" relative evaluations you usually see for stuff like games, though obviously it exists for movies, music, and the like too.
To understand and analyze a piece by itself you do obviously have to meet it where its at, temporally speaking, but when you're trying to relate it within the greater context of its medium I think some level of detachment is necessary to be able to compare how separate works do similar things. When discussing art doing anything objectively is hard but at least for me it's been way more useful to have a single analytical framework per medium than try to adapt what norms and principles I use depending on, like, the circumstances something was made in.
I guess this does just originate from me being most knowledgeable about games, though. Like, as an artistically capable artform they've only been around for ~50 years so it figures that there'd be less time for that cultural gulf to form like it has with film.
That is entirely true but I think I'd make a distinction here between analyses and the kind of "is A better than B?" relative evaluations you usually see for stuff like games, though obviously it exists for movies, music, and the like too.
To understand and analyze a piece by itself you do obviously have to meet it where its at, temporally speaking, but when you're trying to relate it within the greater context of its medium I think some level of detachment is necessary to be able to compare how separate works do similar things. When discussing art doing anything objectively is hard but at least for me it's been way more useful to have a single analytical framework per medium than try to adapt what norms and principles I use depending on, like, the circumstances something was made in.
I guess this does just originate from me being most knowledgeable about games, though. Like, as an artistically capable artform they've only been around for ~50 years so it figures that there'd be less time for that cultural gulf to form like it has with film.
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AppleAmps
@MossGrowsOnNormanRuins
TL;DR I saw someone put the original Super Mario Bros. on par with Super Mario Galaxy on a ranking and got big mad.
TL;DR I saw someone put the original Super Mario Bros. on par with Super Mario Galaxy on a ranking and got big mad.
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